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Re: TDS - Arx Mentis - T2 Raid 4 - Calix Quirinus and Lanys T'Vyl
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2015, 04:06:39 AM »
I think we may have Lanys too far away.

This what I see in the logs:
[Fri May 15 22:52:02 2015] Calix Quirinus begins to cast a spell. <Energy Conversion>
[Fri May 15 22:52:02 2015] Lisard`s pet has been slain by Calix Quirinus!
[Fri May 15 22:52:02 2015] Lisard`s pet has been slain by Calix Quirinus!
[Fri May 15 22:52:02 2015] Poddo has been slain by Calix Quirinus!
[Fri May 15 22:52:02 2015] Borean has been slain by Calix Quirinus!
[Fri May 15 22:52:02 2015] Your spell is interrupted.
[Fri May 15 22:52:02 2015]   You have taken 90624 points of damage.
[Fri May 15 22:52:02 2015] You have been knocked unconscious!
[Fri May 15 22:52:02 2015] You have been slain by Calix Quirinus!

Both luther an Eye were taking 90k+ hits from Calix
Eyegora died 5 times to Calix when standing at Lanys

Were you debuffed with Lifescourge at the time?

Lisard was in a similar situation, but his damage was only 73k.  It just happened that Surge of Pain hit at the same time, for another 48k and he was most likely debuffed with Lifescourge and got rocked.

Basically, we can't have so many emote failures, it's really costing us.

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Re: TDS - Arx Mentis - T2 Raid 4 - Calix Quirinus and Lanys T'Vyl
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2015, 04:15:05 AM »
More info from log files:
[Fri May 15 21:03:01 2015] You begin casting Perilous Bafflement.
[Fri May 15 21:03:01 2015] Lanys T`Vyl quivers as a bolt of energy surges through them.
[Fri May 15 21:03:01 2015] Lanys T`Vyl suffers.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] Your target resisted the Perilous Bafflement spell.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] You pay for your risk.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] You pay for your risk.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] You pay for your risk.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] The magical energies from your spell are absorbed by Lanys and converted to healing magic.

[Fri May 15 21:03:10 2015] You begin casting Color Concourse.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:13 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:13 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:13 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:13 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:13 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:13 2015] The magical energies from your spell are absorbed by Lanys and converted to healing magic.

Stuns and mezzes seem to be healing lanys.

Perhaps we should put the main raid halfway in between the two mobs and have all but active tanks move in close when the adds about to spawn emote fires.

PS liches seem to despawn after a set time, mezzed or not, perhaps they can be kited.

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Re: TDS - Arx Mentis - T2 Raid 4 - Calix Quirinus and Lanys T'Vyl
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2015, 04:20:30 AM »
More info from log files:
[Fri May 15 21:03:01 2015] You begin casting Perilous Bafflement.
[Fri May 15 21:03:01 2015] Lanys T`Vyl quivers as a bolt of energy surges through them.
[Fri May 15 21:03:01 2015] Lanys T`Vyl suffers.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] Your target resisted the Perilous Bafflement spell.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] You pay for your risk.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] You pay for your risk.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] You pay for your risk.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] An ire lich gazes happily into space.
[Fri May 15 21:03:02 2015] The magical energies from your spell are absorbed by Lanys and converted to healing magic.

[Fri May 15 21:03:10 2015] You begin casting Color Concourse.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:12 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:13 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:13 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:13 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:13 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:13 2015] An ire lich is stunned by a clash of colors.
[Fri May 15 21:03:13 2015] The magical energies from your spell are absorbed by Lanys and converted to healing magic.

Stuns and mezzes seem to be healing lanys.

Perhaps we should put the main raid halfway in between the two mobs and have all but active tanks move in close when the adds about to spawn emote fires.

PS liches seem to despawn after a set time, mezzed or not, perhaps they can be kited.

Each magical energies = 50k heal.  This really can't be avoided though, as we need to mez liches, and the stuns are part of our CC repertoire on this front.

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Re: TDS - Arx Mentis - T2 Raid 4 - Calix Quirinus and Lanys T'Vyl
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2015, 08:45:47 PM »
his point is that there is a huge amount of damage being taken out at lanys - i brought this up as well regardless of lifescourge or not - if we get a calix ae and the dot tick and the lichs - however unlikely or unlucky that is.... we will lose alot of people. there were a couple times when i had group topped off on healing and then bam! 3 are instagibbed and the remaining 3 are at 3-10% left on life. (*shaman procced ALOT of preincarnations out there)

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Re: TDS - Arx Mentis - T2 Raid 4 - Calix Quirinus and Lanys T'Vyl
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2015, 09:57:24 PM »
his point is that there is a huge amount of damage being taken out at lanys - i brought this up as well regardless of lifescourge or not - if we get a calix ae and the dot tick and the lichs - however unlikely or unlucky that is.... we will lose alot of people. there were a couple times when i had group topped off on healing and then bam! 3 are instagibbed and the remaining 3 are at 3-10% left on life. (*shaman procced ALOT of preincarnations out there)

Oh I understand completely.  I was only pointing out how much impact the debuff has and how preventable it is. 

I've been reviewing the pros and cons of our recent positioning as well, and as helpful it is to avoid the knockback and dispel from Lanys, the distance is leaving our MTO and melee far too exposed (which is what you're saying and Luth/Lisard are experiencing as well).

Your point last night also regarding Shaman group healing being unable to reach your melee at Lanys is equally valid.  It's the same for G2 MTO on Lanys where Trolbiterr and I are not able to land ours either.  What's worse is, rebuffing DI, Symbol, GhoTs, Wards, and Druid/Shm Growth, and Cleric/Pal/Enc Auras (HP/Mit) are all out of range with our current positioning.    These things are having an impact, and it's outweighing the benefits of merely avoiding the knockback/dispel.

The long and short here is, we need to revert back to our other positioning where Lanys and Calix are on opposing walls at the 1st pillar and the raid is in between at the corner area.   From that setup we regain our rebuffing/aura factors, benefit the most from the collective healing (splashes, HoTs), it centralizes our CC, and allows melee to alternate more efficiently between Calix/Lanys AND Sparks.


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Re: TDS - Arx Mentis - T2 Raid 4 - Calix Quirinus and Lanys T'Vyl
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2015, 12:11:57 AM »

*** Quests & Events ***
- Calix Quirinus (Raid) - Corrected a bug that caused messaging about Lanys' Area of Effect attack to fail. Cut the radius of her targeted Area of Effect knockback in half.
- Calix Quirinus (Raid) - Corrected a bug that caused Arc Worker adds to change targets every 5 seconds instead of every 20 seconds as intended.

On Test, should go live this week, this should help us out quite a bit

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Re: TDS - Arx Mentis - T2 Raid 4 - Calix Quirinus and Lanys T'Vyl
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2015, 11:26:07 PM »

*** Quests & Events ***
- Calix Quirinus (Raid) - Corrected a bug that caused messaging about Lanys' Area of Effect attack to fail. Cut the radius of her targeted Area of Effect knockback in half.
- Calix Quirinus (Raid) - Corrected a bug that caused Arc Worker adds to change targets every 5 seconds instead of every 20 seconds as intended.

On Test, should go live this week, this should help us out quite a bit

With this change, it appears the Lich emote has been altered.  We've adjusted our GINA trigger package to reflect this in the original post.  Everyone please delete the old trigger set, then download and import the new trigger set and ensure that it is toggled on and working.

Also, it appears the lich timing has either changed or it's server lag, but we've shaved off two seconds from the overlay timer (blame Dimbly if timing is off! /grin).

Thanks, see everyone at raid!


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Re: TDS - Arx Mentis - T2 Raid 4 - Calix Quirinus and Lanys T'Vyl
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2015, 05:06:24 AM »
Trigger updated again on Saturday.  There was a trailing single quote in the Lifescourge beam emote which prevented it from firing correctly.  Please delete the entire set and import it again if you weren't at the raid and done so already.

We also have some positioning changes for tanks, main raid and healers.  We'll cover it during prep next run, as it's easier to do it in the zone at that time.

Until then, have a safe week.

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Re: TDS - Arx Mentis - T2 Raid 4 - Calix Quirinus and Lanys T'Vyl
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2015, 04:00:36 AM »
Friday, June 12, 2015

Calix Quirinus and Lanys T'Vyl Defeated!  Amazing effort everyone!

A challenging event indeed.  Just as with Plane of War, we don't back down from a challenge!  Tackling what's in our progression path, and keep hammering at it.  Thanks to all who have been attending, it demonstrates your commitment to open raiding and collectively working together as a team to take down content (and if some Dwarves die along the way, so be it).

See everyone in game!

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Re: TDS - Arx Mentis - T2 Raid 4 - Calix Quirinus and Lanys T'Vyl
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2015, 07:37:40 PM »
Congrats.  Sorry I missed it.  I was on the road to LA for a wedding.