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Title: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Furro on April 18, 2012, 06:18:42 AM
 
Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts

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Image Source: Allakhazam (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/)

 
Zone & Instance Info
 
Gather Zone: Beasts' Domain

NPC Name: Kalda Treg
NPC Location: far northwestern part of the zone (loc: 315, 2800, 10)

Keyword to Enter: prepared


Flag & Key Requirements
 

Zone Flag: None
Event Key: None
Group Mission: None
Event Flag: Record of Lore (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=56994) Level: 3/5
Alaran Language: None

* Minimum to be Piggy/85'/pushed into raid: Nothing required.



Brief Event Overview and Strat

For this event, King of the Beast has several huge timed AE DDs, Charms and roots and spawns various hard hitting adds.

Every 20% of the Kings HP, adds spawn that we must kill.

Additionally, every three minutes the King spawns more adds.

The King eats any adds not killed fast enough and regens HP as a result.

ENCHANTERS: MEZ GRENDALINS & SELYRAHS until MA gets to them with raid DPS.

PALADINS & ENCHANTERS: BRAXI = Stunnable.

DPS: Due to the huge AE's + Roots, please only RANGE DPS the KING for now, as we need everyone mobile to deal with adds outside AE ranges.

Melee - If you get summoned when our tank is charmed, please DISC DEFENSIVELY to survive until the MT can peel it off you.

Everyone please assist MA when called on as we switch between ADDS and KING.

Any questions, please reply to this thread, and/or ask in the FLRaids:raids channel.  Thanks.


Boss: King of the Beasts

KING       Call of the Domain (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=31462) - Charm (single-target)
Entangling Domain Vines (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=31452) - Root (single-target)
King's Charge (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=31456&source=Live) -  70k DD PBAE (20' range)
King's Quake (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=31454&source=Live) - 34k DD PBAE + Stun (100' range)
King's Roar (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=31453) - Melee delay + Spell Silence PBAE (100' range)
King's Slam (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=31455&source=Live) - 91k DD + Knockback/up (single-target, 75' range)
King's Toss (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=31459&source=Live) - 75k DD + Knockback/up (single-target, 75' range)
Magic of the Domain (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=31458) - 8k DoT, but beneficial SD/ATK Speed + Stats (single-target, Charm (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=31462) recourse on fade)


Adds


 
BRAXI       Stunnable, Charmable
  GRENDALEAN Mezzable, Stunnable
  SELYRAH Mezzable
  a beast Random CC weakness possibly (test/report)
   
    * Required Actions
    CC: Lock down what you are able until we can dispatch.
    Raid: Off King, assist MA on adds.
   
Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Ssark on April 18, 2012, 11:40:10 AM
only hits for 35000! :)
Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Allronn on April 18, 2012, 09:36:52 PM
Also this is a timed event .. i do not know the verbage but it will be something like King of beasts needs to be killed something about powering up from that point you have 5 Min to make him dead or he powers up and starts hitting for 70k + On a War with 10.7 k AC ( with Bard Boost ) .. in short best course of action if he powers up is to mass X loc and let it reset ..
Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Furro on April 19, 2012, 01:21:58 AM
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Also this is a timed event .. i do not know the verbage but it will be something like King of beasts needs to be killed something about powering up from that point you have 5 Min to make him dead or he powers up and starts hitting for 70k + On a War with 10.7 k AC ( with Bard Boost ) .. in short best course of action if he powers up is to mass X loc and let it reset ..

Aye, I've read it had a timer also.  Since I wasn't exactly sure of the details, I left it out of the post.

Either way, good to know bit more now. 

Thanks Allronn.




Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Allronn on April 20, 2012, 02:23:24 AM
The AT does not work with the verbage "you lose yourself to the primal urges"

for being charmed that is Just got charmed by beast on my war and the trigger did not go off ...

Did not get a chance to try the full verbage of "you lose yourself to the primal urges of the domain!"

so Am unsure if this small change will make it work or not Sorry  :'(
Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Furro on April 20, 2012, 03:30:03 AM
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The AT does not work with the verbage "you lose yourself to the primal urges"

for being charmed that is Just got charmed by beast on my war and the trigger did not go off ...

Did not get a chance to try the full verbage of "you lose yourself to the primal urges of the domain!"

so Am unsure if this small change will make it work or not Sorry  :'(

The partial pattern should work fine.  If you have logs of your actual charm, copy/paste it here directly.  It could be the in-game version has double whitespace somewhere and that's why it's not firing with the trig.



Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Allronn on April 20, 2012, 04:24:22 AM
Bah of all the times not to turn my /log on

ok next time we do it i will make sure the log is on

I usually do it for the Game Parcer but forgot tonight  :(
Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Furro on April 20, 2012, 06:13:08 AM
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Bah of all the times not to turn my /log on

ok next time we do it i will make sure the log is on

I usually do it for the Game Parcer but forgot tonight  :(


No worries.



Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Buukala on April 22, 2012, 02:49:26 AM
King summons adds every 3 minutes, not 2 minutes.
Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Furro on April 28, 2012, 06:35:54 PM
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King summons adds every 3 minutes, not 2 minutes.
 
Fixed.  Thanks

Other adjusts to follow.
Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Furro on April 28, 2012, 07:30:33 PM
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Text / Audio Triggers - Mandatory
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Main Tanks

The Kings target gets hit by CHARM every 90 seconds. 

Charm lasts 36 seconds.

We need TANK SWAPS immediately when you become charmed.

This GTT will fire when you are charmed.


Charm Trigger voa_beast_charm.gtt (http://www.eqfreelance.net/audio/voa_beast_charm.gtt)

* Audio File: charmed.wav (http://www.eqfreelance.net/audio/charmed.wav)



Trigger Change - TANKS

Charm is a recourse when Magic of the Domain (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=32076&source=Live) fades.

Corruption Cure will REMOVE the Magic buff and prevent you from being charmed.

DELETE your OLD charm GTT, and import the NEW one below:

When GTT fires, hit your CURE hotkey to let designated curer in your group know to cure you.

* New: voa_beast_charm.gtt (http://www.eqfreelance.net/audio/voa_beast_charm.gtt)

Audio File: get-cured.wav (http://www.eqfreelance.net/audio/get-cured.wav)



Other Adjusts

Some further adjusts to resolve issues experienced previously.  These apply to EVERYONE.  There are no exceptions.  Read and adjust your play as related to your class/role please.

ONLY RANGE DPS KING:
BACKUP MAIN TANKS:
ADD TANKS:

Comments:

Our MT on King takes alot of spike damage due to the AEs in play.  It's critical we keep the MT topped off to counter this damage as best possible.  When adds are down, there's no reason every healer should not be focused on the MT.  It's basically a single tank + boss fight at those times.

Adds getting absorbed into King.  I saw no emote of this, but it may have happened.  We'll have to watch for it, and adjust our tactic accordingly.

There is possibly a 15 or so minute hidden timer before King powerup as well. 

Couple other tweaks we can do, but we have to engage boss to flesh out the details next run first.

Overall, good attempts everyone given our setup.  A work in progress!




Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Ocsee Clene on May 25, 2012, 10:30:52 PM
One trick that a local guild uses is to pet tank this guy.

A mage pet, with Enhanced Minion 16 can take this guy; and the pets are all immune to charm.  It kind of trivializes this event by totally sidestepping a lot of the event mechanics.

Unfortunately the only EM 16 items in game are from VoA T4 and the Tower of Frozen Shadow raid event (damn you Kotsukai for taking our only EM16 item ever).  But if any of our mages have gotten an EM 16 item from other raids this would be a nice place for them to step up.
Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Kaylaanie on May 28, 2012, 06:11:55 AM
Well, I don't have EM16 but I do have EM14.  EM14 is a pet power increase of 120, whereas EM16 is 130.  Not a huge difference, but I don't know if that would make or break the potential for pet tanking that event.
Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Furro on May 28, 2012, 07:10:37 AM
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One trick that a local guild uses is to pet tank this guy.

A mage pet, with Enhanced Minion 16 can take this guy; and the pets are all immune to charm.  It kind of trivializes this event by totally sidestepping a lot of the event mechanics.

Unfortunately the only EM 16 items in game are from VoA T4 and the Tower of Frozen Shadow raid event (damn you Kotsukai for taking our only EM16 item ever).  But if any of our mages have gotten an EM 16 item from other raids this would be a nice place for them to step up.
 
I'm aware of this tactic.  Unfortunately, it's not something we'll adopt, as pet tanking raid bosses is not intended by the devs.  Not to mention, personally, I think it's total cheese to bypass raid mechanics in this fashion, negating the challenge aspect of actually dealing with them. 

Anyway, it's late, just tossing a reply here so you know your suggestion wasn't overlooked.  Regardless of my stance, I do appreciate your suggestion, as I do everyones.

To handle charm, our tanks are just going to have to be on the ball, as well as healers to /assist and swap without much notice each time our MT gets charmed.  It won't be easy, but that's part of the challenge.  We're up for it.  Several tanks vying for agro may work as well.

Our next run on this event is coming up this week.  After a couple weeks backflagging, we should have appropriate numbers to make a good showing. 


Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Ocsee Clene on June 02, 2012, 09:50:03 PM
PROOF, that Furro uses cheese with no apologies.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz3BuYYhnn0#t=01m40s

Don't even try to deny it you charlatan!!!  You know you did it!!!

In honor of Furro, tonight's raiding misadventures will feature both cheese, and a nice wine to go with it.

Possibly chuckling over the cheese and wine as well too.

Oh, and I'm keeping all the pie I made for you.
Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: mistatk on June 03, 2012, 05:02:18 AM
The night we were trying this event, when we were trying the most updated tactic, i still was getting charmed even though i was getting the debuff cured.  We can try figure it out more next run, but i don't think it's as simple as just getting the debuff cured = no charm.
Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Furro on June 03, 2012, 06:02:10 AM
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The night we were trying this event, when we were trying the most updated tactic, i still was getting charmed even though i was getting the debuff cured.  We can try figure it out more next run, but i don't think it's as simple as just getting the debuff cured = no charm.

It's not that simple.  The cure doesn't work, but it should.  We discovered this on our last run few weeks back and it was why we stopped trying to cure it.  We're just going to have to deal with it with fast reactions from both tanks/healers when the charm occurs.

Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Furro on June 08, 2012, 09:10:38 PM

We're taking our first real look at this event tonight and tomorrow.  Been a few weeks and we have more T3 flagged now.


TANKS, READ BELOW THE QUOTE AND REMOVE THE TRIGGER SET PREVIOUSLY:
 
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Text / Audio Triggers - Mandatory
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Main Tanks

Charm is a recourse when Magic of the Domain (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=32076&source=Live) fades.

Corruption Cure will REMOVE the Magic buff and prevent you from being charmed.

When GTT fires, hit your CURE hotkey to let designated curer in your group know to cure you.

* New: voa_beast_charm.gtt (http://www.eqfreelance.net/audio/voa_beast_charm.gtt)

Audio File: get-cured.wav (http://www.eqfreelance.net/audio/get-cured.wav)


Tanks, remove this trigger from your GTT setup.

MTs assigned to Beast have the other tanks set in your ETW, when the one before you gets charmed, step up.  Remember use your TANKING hotkey please also (it really helps give healers extra heads up).

After each attempt, Beast MTs parse your logs to see what he hits were like.  We need to know if: Beast in pit in arura hits for less or not.  Visual accounts are not going to cut it, parse to get the real numbers so you know by how much.  We'll test both in and out of pit so we have comparisons (unless you have our prior run saved).





Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Borean on June 08, 2012, 11:49:18 PM
Regarding pet tanking, how do you know what the devs intended?  Somewhere you heard that the charm could be cured, but it can't.  Perhaps the intended tactic is to pet tank him.  Maybe the devs don't even have intended tactics for raids.  They just set the challenge and let the players figure out how to beat it, using all the tools that the game offers.  Pets are one of those tools.
Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Furro on June 09, 2012, 04:05:47 AM
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Regarding pet tanking, how do you know what the devs intended?  Somewhere you heard that the charm could be cured, but it can't.  Perhaps the intended tactic is to pet tank him.  Maybe the devs don't even have intended tactics for raids.  They just set the challenge and let the players figure out how to beat it, using all the tools that the game offers.  Pets are one of those tools.

The charm curing; I never heard it could be.  When I wrote the strat, I looked at the marker for domain, it showed corruption counters.  It should be curable, but it isn't.  There are two charms though also, I'm guessing the other is based on the model or something, not sure.  Maybe it'll flesh out and be more clear after we drop it a few times in the logs. 
 
No raids are designed around pet tanking raid bosses.  Devs even changed SS#2 to prevent pet tanking and clearly stated it wasn't intended.  I'm not disputing pet tanking in the group game isn't viable/intended though, but I consider that different realm than raiding.




Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Ssark on June 09, 2012, 11:13:12 AM
Freelance first win Friday, June 8, 2012.

[Fri Jun 08 21:39:31 2012] Ssark tells the raid, 'Engage!'
[Fri Jun 08 22:03:35 2012] Furro tells the raid, 'Nice work everyone!'

Epic (thanks Renthor) battle between a freelance group of raiders learning a new event and current expansion content.

P.S. There was about 15 seconds of a pet tanking, I saw it, my Exwifesbones! :)
Title: Re: VoA - Beasts' Domain - King of the Beasts
Post by: Furro on September 04, 2012, 05:31:00 PM
 
Bump.

This event continues to be a source of gear both via drops and vendor currency.  It will remain a priority in our cycle.